I read a report few days back that Muslim students in Antounieh university were demanding a prayer room inside the university but I never really gave it much importance and I honestly still don’t think it’s a big deal.
Whomever is making out of it a big deal are political parties who want to score points left and right on the expense of Antounieh students. Indeed, instead of leaving those students alone and letting them focus on getting a proper education and making the best out of their university lives, they are dragged into useless and pointless fights. Moreover, the parties against setting up a prayer room for Muslims are acting as if it’s an Iranian nuclear attack on the USA and taking the matter way out of proportion, and Mustapha agrees here.
Having said that, I strongly urge all universities in Lebanon to simply ban politics and political parties on their campuses and incite students to focus on their students and developing their intellectual skills. Added to that, they should forbid any political side from interfering in their internal matters and reprimand students promoting their political parties inside the university. Many universities such as USEK have taken this initiative and it’s working quite well!
As for the problem at hand, there are 2 plausible solutions in my opinion:
– The Antonine University is a Roman Catholic institution and does not accept establishing a prayer room for non-Christians as it violates its bylaws and principles. If few Muslim students are that bothered for not being able to perform their daily prayers and feel it’s more important than the quality of education they are getting, they can go to the nearest mosque or simply transfer to another university. Those students surely knew that it’s a Christian university from the start and joined it for getting an education, not setting up a prayer room. The university could provide them with a transportation means to show good faith.
– The Antonine university could take into consideration its Muslim students’ request and set up a prayer room right outside its campus where it does not violate its rules and beliefs. However, even though I was sort of supportive of this solution, I worry that it will spark similar protests in other educational establishments and lead to sectarian brawls among the students.
Last but not least, all students who violated the university’s laws should be put on probation and warned, in order to keep the university’s integrity intact.
Hoping and praying that things will not degenerate into sectarian fights among students in the next days to come. Teachers could play a role here in failing any student engaged in a protest or a political fight or even a debate while on campus.
ya khayyeh jem3a masi7iyyeh, lachou l istifzeiz? ma3 keimil i7tiramna.
Ya khaye heye jem3a maseheye ma khtalafna…haida el helo feya. Bas el maseeh byemna3 el eslem aw el yehoud ysalo law 3ala beibo ?
Then again we should remember that we r all willed to respect and tolerate each other..if we are Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or atheist.
Ya khayyeh la2, l masi7 ma byemna3 7ada ysalleh 3a bebo bas Nasrallah byemna3 l masi7yeh ysallo 3ala bebo w byemna3 l batrak yelbos salib lamma yzouro. Fa iza badna n2oul l masi7 heik wl masi7 heik 2akaloulna rasna nasrallah w taweb3o!
khaleh takhalof el seyeseh la7elon. Are you not any smarter? Do you not give your self more credit than to follow hassan nasrallah and the batrak’s steps? The only reason they are where they are is because they are not followers. Stop being a follower and judge a situation for YOURself. grow up seriously guys walla bahdaleh
they are all praying to the same god you pray to. What a shame johnny that you take it as iftiszeiz because it shows how much you know about religion. kef badon ysalo ya train ma iza wa7ad menon bye7mol saleeb bi jem3a mase7eyeh bye2tloo. Stop talking bull. 7alkon tet3alamo ino fi mase7eyeh shi3a sunna w kel el adyen bi lebnen get used to it, your all from the same place.
A. Where did these students pray in previous years? What’s the sudden religious awakening?
B. Why should private religious institutions be forced to accommodate everyone’s wishes?
C. Why should they accommodate any Non Christians to have their prayers? You don’t see Islamic schools set up rooms for Christian prayers.
D. Do you think these students will ever not mix politics with religion and studies?? Especially in an overtly sectarian and screwed up society as Lebanon?
It would have been not a big deal IF it was not in response to the board of the university saying that the university is “Maronite Catholic” which it IS, the same as USJ, USEK etc. Also if it was not “2estefzezyeh”, one would have choosen a room in private to hold prayers. NOTE that all my muslim friends, whom I very much respect, use a carpet for prayer. These students were clearly doing it to piss someone off or in response to said announcement since they had no carpet of any kind!
Another proof that they wanted to piss people off is that no muslim is allowed to pray with their shoes on while theirs was! What more proof do you want that they were “2ortet maneyek” and they were the ones that were politically driven?!?!!?
dang no delete, just saw the other picture and carpets are there. Still it is estefzezyeh. I want to see christians chanting “tretil” in a muslim university. They’ll probably never return home and parts of their bodies will be found later on dispersed across ghbayre and da7yeh!
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This is exactly why i no longer live in Lebanon, and refuse to bring my children up in such a society.
Is this the future generation we really want for Lebanon?????
I’m a Muslim and our religion is clear. This was not a peayer. This was an act of provocation, just like the weapons that protet these acts.
They will not accept a church in dahyeh and will surely not accept in one in Qum or Mekkah.
But might makes right and the might is from God and his 21st century profit and official minister of propaganda of mouman3a. Hassan Nasrallah.
fadi you are very stupid. There are 2 churches in Dahyeh and you are not welcomed to visit both …
I agree that all politics should be banned from all uni’s. And any student trying to bring it in be expelled instantly. They say the youth are our future? Well I want to be no part of that future with these knuckleheads leading us to certain failure. The worst part of going to uni was having to deal with election day. All the freaking army and security. I could never get a decent parking spot and had to walk so far under the hot sun. When I was so naive in my 1st and 2nd year I actually voted. I still remember how silly that was. Both sides handed my lists and insisted I vote for them. What shitty campaigning. I swear the Lebanese think campaigning is offering people food and drinks and bad mouthing the other side without ever telling me why I really should vote for them. But, what should I have really expected from then when during the municipality elections the “adults” did the same shit! I can’t believe I helped vote in the mayor of our town. He is the worst! When I go to him he just smokes his cigarette and tells me why he can’t do anything for me. But, that is just because he is such a lazy fat old fart.
Anyways, there should be no prayer room offered to these students. This is a private Catholic institute.
there have been muslim students for years WHY praying NOW ? i dont get it ma3a 2enno thats not the point
the point is that universities are for studying whether they are muslim or christian and NOT for praying so if anyone wants to pray can go to mosque or church THAT’S IT!!!
I agree with Rob – if a student is religious and feels the need to pray while at university, they should attend an Islamic unversity not a catholic one. Now, praying is a very private matter, you dont need to make a public spectacle of it. these are provocative acts plain and simple, and those involved should be warned, and put on probation.
Having an islamic prayer room in a catholic university – what next???
Now – I dont think the unversity should feel the need to accomodate these students, as they have shown tolerance already in admitting them in the first place.
A possible solution – have a prayer room. This room can be non demominational, so can be used by catholics, muslims or whoever. being a catholic university, it probably already has a chapel.